Comments on: Auction Values for Fantasy Baseball 2010 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655 We've Got Your Fix Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:57:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Pricing 2010’s Designated Hitters – Last Player Picked http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-721 Pricing 2010’s Designated Hitters – Last Player Picked Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:56:55 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-721 [...] apparently I wasn’t alone: Just to compare a couple of other sources, Fantasy Ball Junkie calculates the average auction price for Vlad as $8. Tim Dierkes values him at $9. Yahoo also [...] [...] apparently I wasn’t alone: Just to compare a couple of other sources, Fantasy Ball Junkie calculates the average auction price for Vlad as $8. Tim Dierkes values him at $9. Yahoo also [...]

]]> By: TopChuckie http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-581 TopChuckie Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:29:05 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-581 Other than the closers, who tend to go a little higher in my leagues, those numbers look very indicative of what I would expect at my drafts. I too would love to see your numbers for Only Leagues and I would love to see you go deeper at each position if possible. I think the argument against why isn't the last catcher needed only $1 is these prices aren't based on what you SHOULD pay, they are based on what you should EXPECT to have to pay based on the general consensus of a player's value. In other words, if Kendall, Zaun, Shoppach, and Buck are all right around the 23rd thru 26th best C's in a 12 team mixed league, based on a compilation of drafts, some owners think Shoppach is the best of the bunch, and therefore worth $2, while others will think Zaun is the best of the bunch and worth $2. If you nominate any one of these guys when all 4 are left on the board, someone may want him more than the other 3 and go an extra buck to take him. Since they are all pretty equal, that owner would be better served to just settle for one of the other 3 for the minimum, i.e. he SHOULD pay only $1 for any one of them, but based on ADP trends, you can EXPECT him to pay $2. To me the purpose of AAV is not to determine what a guy is worth, it is to determine if you can realistically expect to win the bid for a player based on what you think he is worth. If you value a player at $12 but because you can see based on ADP or AAV that he is an overrated player according to the masses and going for an AAV of $17, well then you can pretty much cross that guy off your list of targets. If you value a player at $12 and he's going for an AAV of $17 that doesn't mean you SHOULD pay $17 for him, it means you should EXPECT to have to pay $17 for him, and therefore should probably pass (disregarding draft dynamics and inflation). Other than the closers, who tend to go a little higher in my leagues, those numbers look very indicative of what I would expect at my drafts. I too would love to see your numbers for Only Leagues and I would love to see you go deeper at each position if possible.

I think the argument against why isn’t the last catcher needed only $1 is these prices aren’t based on what you SHOULD pay, they are based on what you should EXPECT to have to pay based on the general consensus of a player’s value. In other words, if Kendall, Zaun, Shoppach, and Buck are all right around the 23rd thru 26th best C’s in a 12 team mixed league, based on a compilation of drafts, some owners think Shoppach is the best of the bunch, and therefore worth $2, while others will think Zaun is the best of the bunch and worth $2. If you nominate any one of these guys when all 4 are left on the board, someone may want him more than the other 3 and go an extra buck to take him. Since they are all pretty equal, that owner would be better served to just settle for one of the other 3 for the minimum, i.e. he SHOULD pay only $1 for any one of them, but based on ADP trends, you can EXPECT him to pay $2.

To me the purpose of AAV is not to determine what a guy is worth, it is to determine if you can realistically expect to win the bid for a player based on what you think he is worth. If you value a player at $12 but because you can see based on ADP or AAV that he is an overrated player according to the masses and going for an AAV of $17, well then you can pretty much cross that guy off your list of targets. If you value a player at $12 and he’s going for an AAV of $17 that doesn’t mean you SHOULD pay $17 for him, it means you should EXPECT to have to pay $17 for him, and therefore should probably pass (disregarding draft dynamics and inflation).

]]> By: Andrew Gephardt http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-579 Andrew Gephardt Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:29:31 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-579 Whoops, my bad for assuming. Thanks for correction. Whoops, my bad for assuming. Thanks for correction.

]]> By: Jay Reb http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-578 Jay Reb Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:06:24 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-578 What happened to Vernon Wells - has he completely fallen off the depth charts? What happened to Vernon Wells – has he completely fallen off the depth charts?

]]> By: FBJ Editor http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-577 FBJ Editor Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:44:45 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-577 Actually, it's based on ADP over several sites, including Mock Draft Central. Keep in mind these are only the averages, so they are being generalized as much as possible, with heavy bias to formats that are most popular. Actually, it’s based on ADP over several sites, including Mock Draft Central. Keep in mind these are only the averages, so they are being generalized as much as possible, with heavy bias to formats that are most popular.

]]> By: Andrew Gephardt http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-576 Andrew Gephardt Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:07:36 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-576 We're using Mock Draft Central data, which is based on 2-catcher leagues. As you can tell by the values, catchers are severely underrated in 2-catcher leagues. After all, the 24th catcher should be valued at $1. There's always a ton of value to be had at the catcher position. We’re using Mock Draft Central data, which is based on 2-catcher leagues. As you can tell by the values, catchers are severely underrated in 2-catcher leagues. After all, the 24th catcher should be valued at $1.

There’s always a ton of value to be had at the catcher position.

]]> By: Toffer Peak http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-575 Toffer Peak Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:01:27 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-575 I don't get it. Is this for a 1 catcher per team league or 2 catchers. If only 1, then why are you paying any more than $1 for the worst catcher in the league? Could you provide more background for where these numbers are coming from and what they mean? I don’t get it. Is this for a 1 catcher per team league or 2 catchers. If only 1, then why are you paying any more than $1 for the worst catcher in the league?

Could you provide more background for where these numbers are coming from and what they mean?

]]> By: FBJ Editor http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-572 FBJ Editor Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:08:45 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-572 I'll have to look into AL and NL only leagues. Have to see if there's ADP information for those leagues and then, whether there's any correlation between ADP and AAV in those leagues. Unfortunately, there could be some differences but I'll investigate. I've put up a side link here, "FBJ’s Player Guidebook for ‘10 Fantasy Baseball." I've been gathering together all the info geared towards player (e)valuations. I’ll have to look into AL and NL only leagues. Have to see if there’s ADP information for those leagues and then, whether there’s any correlation between ADP and AAV in those leagues. Unfortunately, there could be some differences but I’ll investigate.

I’ve put up a side link here, “FBJ’s Player Guidebook for ‘10 Fantasy Baseball.” I’ve been gathering together all the info geared towards player (e)valuations.

]]> By: The Perminator http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655&cpage=1#comment-571 The Perminator Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:06:48 +0000 http://www.fantasyballjunkie.com/?p=2655#comment-571 Interesting. I'm in an NL only league ... how can I get the same results for NL only? Is there a formula or spreadsheet you'd recommend? Thanks, Perminator Interesting. I’m in an NL only league … how can I get the same results for NL only? Is there a formula or spreadsheet you’d recommend?

Thanks,
Perminator

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